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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:05 am 
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Does your Paul Ropp look like this? http://www.paulropp.com/english/classic ... r-top.html

gorgeous! Love silk India Saris and the tiny beaded zipper pull in the shape of a heart is to die for!


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:23 pm 
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Day 6
just at the hump of the cleanse and my goal

55.8 kilos

measurements:
34.5 - 28.5 - 38.5
belly at widest: 33 left thigh at widest: 21.75

SWF productive
Lemonade tally: 7 or 8
A good day, energy-wise. Dang if that senna tea from yesterday morning didn't keep me going all day, still. Kept up water intake as much as possible. Happy with my progress but really need to firm up my abdominal muscies, so did one of the core-related Classicial Stretch DVD chapters.


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:41 pm 
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Abbey Lee:
Wow! Good homework on Paul Ropp! Same pattern cut, different color (mine's more of a peacock blue with gold accents like on the shoulder straps... not available on this html catalog page)but I can tell you that if this little turquoise blue one had been in the factory outlet store, I would have bought that instead. Yes, the beaded zipper pull is a trademark of Ropp's. His stuff ranges from hippie chic to very glamorous and even understated. I am wearing this: http://www.paulropp.com/english/flap-dress-397.html to my niece's full-on Indian wedding this summer. All the young people are going to be kitted out in sarees and amazing glamorous stuff from New Delhi, but I think this understated dress will work well for the aunt.

Oh, and progress report on the fitting: I can almost entirely zip it on by myself. One inch to go. Could prob get away with it now if I get my husband to finish the zip and "do" the clasp at the top.

You come visit me in Bali someday, and I'll take you to the Paul Ropp outlet. Everything is marked down about 80% from these online prices.

Love, L'mon


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:11 pm 
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Abbey Lee wrote:
Bali Lemon wrote:
I can't do this cleanse unless I am connected to the forum. It sometimes seems like the whole gd world is chomping on more calories than necessary, that the whole world thinks I'm crazy for fasting, and so it is just a nice safe place to share with people doing the same thing.



I know this feeling so so so well!

It's nice to see others see it too!

The chomping the constant eating and eating and more eating and then planning for more eating. Restaurants, TV, movies all obsessed with it.

Then add in that if you are fat, you're screwed. As far as people are mean, you get paid less (debatable if this is true for men or just women) and then they try to shove the "fat acceptance" and "love your curves" down everyone's gullet. So somehow you get teased with horrific food that isn't food day in and day out, but you are supposed to be able to maintain weight.

The Matrix; Welcome To It!

It's so annoying. Plus I think that extraordinary health and well being is very much about fasting at times and being very natural in what we eat.

Master Cleanse is just such a lovely reset.

I have heard that other countries are much more realistic about weight and fasting and eating. I am in the belly of fast food. Southern California; where fast food originated. But the women here are obsessed with looking very thin and young. And all that horrific food is fattening and aging and bad for humans!

Rant over.

Just a few words of support. So glad you have a level head on your shoulders and can attest to Stanley Burroughs being right about the Master Cleanse. When all else fails, follow the instructions is what he used to say year after year! And he was right!

You can do it! You ARE doing it!

And yes, everything smells. All of it. ESP the people. Ew. And my mouth! yuckO!

Thank you so much for the words of encouragement and support. I don't want to look like some sort of weight-obsessed anorexic who needles away at some imagined lump of fat, starving herself into a skeletal form. For sure I can't deny that the physical appearance thing is important to me. But health always comes first. I would never do a water fast, punishing marathon rounds of situps or running 'til I drop or obsessive exercise... so there's a line I won't cross.

I have a friend who calls herself fat and, well, she is. I don't know where she tips the scales, but she is rotund. She loves cooking and eating and is pretty happy in general. Her husband is a frickin' HUNK, too. So she glows so much with her own inner beauty that she can pull in the love of her life. So she feels better than okay and I would never question her lifestyle. But there are plenty of women who weigh a lot less than her, who feel chunky and heavy and unhealthy and sluggish, and a person might say to her, "you look FINE."

Well, it just comes down to two seemingly disparate things: how healthy you feel and how you feel about your physical presence out in the world. I have the firm belief that we are spiritual beings, not our bodies. But we own our bodies and we have the right to treat them the way we please, so long as it is neither a burden on society (medical bills) or hurting someone (ooh, don't want to imagine what that would entail). My fat friend dresses really nicely and has the energy she needs, to do what she does. She has a lovely, youthful air about her that is so far beyond some bulemic teenager with the body of a Hollywood starlet who buys all the right shoes and handbags and stresses over what everyone is wearing to the prom. That teenager is living her own private hell. I'll choose anything over private hell, but I feel that it's a bonus to present a nice physical appearance every time I get healthy.

No one ever wanted to sign me up for a modeling contract, but I know that cinching a belt around my waist and feeling healthy always seem to go together.

My fat gal pal does NOT have a svelte woman inside screaming to get out. But I know that there are a lot of women out there who are tipping the scales to the breaking point and they feel "this is not ME." And to them, I say: You can end the cycle of overeating. It's possible. You OWN that body!

So that's my 2 cents. To thine ownself, be true.

Love ya, Abs.
Lem


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:17 pm 
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Awesome job Bali keep up the good work. Also thank you for the kind words. It was weird when I saw you wrote to me. I never looked at your post till today so at first I thought you were referring to another Star Mac. And you progress looks amazing...um I'm rather stagnant at the moment but hopefully tomorrow will be better. I also think I need to weigh my self in the morning instead of right after a work out. But anyways thanks again and good luck I'll be checking in sporadically.

PS has anyone been feeling really sleepy... I've been feeling like I may pass out at anytime but it's most prevalent at night after doing insanity. I'm sure it's due to working out, but does anyone else just feel rather lethargic all day.

Pss [lol] I will also be going to sleep earlier that may help lol. I usually go to bed at like 1am ..


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
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Star Mac:

Lethargic? Most definitely. It is really a strain on the body to work and think and do the MC.
AND some types of lethargy can actually be a symptom of some released toxin that is ABOUT to be eliminated the next day.

Hang in there, keep your eye on the prize.

Thanks for the kind words.

btw, I had a day of going backwards in terms of weight loss... just a day or two ago. It seems like most Cleansers experience that at some time or other. I can't explain it, but it's not uncommon, and I figure that if I just think big, then one day's blip is just unimportant. The long-range, big think attitude will do so a lot for a person.

Keep on keepin' on.

Bali Lemon


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:43 pm 
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DAY 7

55.6 kilos
waist 28.25

SWF done... but don't any of you do this. I waited til about 8 am to chug it. Then my husband gets fiendish plan to leave EARLY for our planned Denpasar shopping and medical trip, so that we can see Guardians of the Galaxy at the newly opened, latest-Dolby XXI Cineplex. Well, I like this idea but I've just chugged my salt water and, as we all know, it is a really bad idea to get into a car or simply not be within leaping distance of a toilet. So I take a calculated risk. I don't drink extra water. Just: okay, I hhaven't "gone" yet, so maybe I can hold off 'til we hit your hardware store.

Stupid idea.

We actually get to the lighting store in deepest, darkest Denpasar, and my kidneys are railing at me. I've gone way too long without fluid (only thing I drank was the salt water). I ask one of the stock girls if I can use the Kamar Kecil. Oh, boy, she leads me back through the bowels of the store, and, just as you might expect in the oldest part of town, through a rabbit warren of boxes of every imaginable size (this is a store of lighting fixtures, spools of electrical cable, light bulbs, you name it). I seriously wonder if I'd make it out alive if there should be a fire while I'm making my way through the maze to the staff toilet. This is pure third world shophouse nightmare. The girl tells me, as she points to a scary staircase, that the toilet's at the top. I go up and cannot discern from where comes the sound of rushing water. It takes me a full minute of wandering amidst the towers of boxes up there, to locate the john. Someone's in it. No matter, I take a big, long swig of drinking water to prime the pump. At last, one of the employees (this place is probably 700 sq feet and it employs at least fifteen people... maybe to make everyone fit and still have room for customers, one person has to be in the toilet at all times). Actually, the guy emerges and acts politely embarrassed for taking a long time (He didn't, particularly). Now, I have been living in southeast Asia for about 27 years... before moving here, I traveled within Asia. I've used toilets of all kinds. I've gotten used to bringing my own tissue, to finding muddy footprints where there ought to be other body parts; I'm well accustomed to stinking, filthy outhouses emptying out over fields of produce, and I have developed all the tricks to entering a flooded restroom in long pants with a knapsack and a shoulder bag and have nothing but the soles of my shoes touch the swampy floor. And this restroom was... well, it was pretty damned typical... inch of water sloshing about the floor, flushing water sitting in an overflowing mandi tub, hose to squirt yourself clean. But it was a toilet, and I had just chugged some badly needed water, and I was going to make my contribution come hell or high sewage. And I came out of there grateful that the shopkeeper let me go up there, past the firetrap, through the narrow canyons of boxes, a happy customer of both the MC and the lighting store.

Local color for y'all. But my main point is, don't go without water in the morning. That SWF needs a chaser. My kidneys were fine, later. I was back at the car making myself a lemonade a half hour later.

Lemonade tally 8
Feeling pretty good, energy OK
Enjoyed the film

Bali Lemon


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:14 pm 
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DAY 8

55.4 Kgs
bust 34.75
waist 28.5
hips 38.25 woah!!

belly at fattest: 32.5 (that's a big drop, too)
left thigh: 22 (nothing happening there)

draft in progress

SWF: ridiculously productive, if delayed reaction
Lemonade tally: 8
Trying weird, humongous green lemons I bought at the Japanese supermarket yesterday. They smell almost tangerine-ish when you cut them open. Mixing with limes from my tree.
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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
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DAY 9 draft

55.1 kgs
not bad! Think I'll go beyond Day 10, although I now have my visa run booked, and if I do a 3 or 4 day ease-out, I will have to make May 8 or 9 my last day of the Lemonade and SWF. Going to Malaysia (one of the great cuisines of Asia). How can I confront a hotel buffet breakfast, Kuala Lumpur style, if I can't eat solids? So now I know that this will be an 18 or 19 day Cleanse. White tongue or not.
Enjoying the spring in my step. I am finally just not lugging junk. Super nice feeling.

the other stats:
34.5 - 28.25 - 38.5
belly 30, left thigh: 21.25

SWF done, but drank 2 C of water just before it, and that was all I needed, actually. Once I did the SWF itself, not terribly productive.
Lemonade 7 or 8, kind of lost track.


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
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Well well well the toilet story really amused me! :)

The part about wondering what is going to happen if there's a fire! haha!!

Glad you are ok ... close call. And yeah ... SWF never appreciates a trip away from home! Or going with no water after! I'm doing large amounts of water and a tablespoon of salt now. I felt so bad for you when you accidentally did two tablespoons instead of teaspoons at the beginning of your cleanse! ouchie Ouchie!

Great graph! Great like you said to have a spring in your step! I had to make a run for it yesterday for a sale item at Aldi and that is when I knew I'd have to go longer than 10 days. I could run really fast, on my toes and with almost no effort of noise! So so so fun to be light like that and strong.

I'll be with ya til your end point I bet. I'm on Day 11 ... at the end of day 11. So May 8th is Day 20 or so ... sounds good to me. You know in a perfect world my tongue goes pink tomorrow! And yours does the same!

The best thing for me is being outside walking or doing gardening. Being distracted and moving! Makes everything else fade away. And the freakin' lasagna is finally gone! Horray Hooorrayyy!

Love you! Love the dress BTW that you will wear to the wedding which sounds really fun!


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Amazing progress. The toilet story wad hilarious Asia needs some work on the BR department. Ours aren't the best nor the cleaners but compared to the Asia toilets were winning lol. I'm glad you are making it you are truly inspiring! Keep on keeping on!

CHEERS!


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 Post subject: Re: Seventh gonna be heaven?
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Thanks, Star Mac and Abbey "Squeegy" Lee, for the feedback.

Anyone who's been on this cleanse is not squeamish about toilet and poop stories, I guessed, so I figured I could go ahead and post the blow-by-blow of "thrills and spills in the firetrap."

Glad to help anyone who needs either a laugh or a pat on the back, during this thing.

Do well, everyone!

G'night.

Lemmy


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DAY 10
draft
55.1 kgs (plateau)
34 - 28 - 38.25
Not complaining; I feel great.
belly measures 32.5 (I'm pleased. Muffin top gone).
left thigh 21.25 for the record.
Skyped with my brother this morning and he said, "you look GREAT!" before I even told him I was on the MC.

SWF productive

Lemonade tally: 4 so far

So... gonna stay the course. Big tree cutting today, so I was out in the garden. High energy.


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DAY 11

draft

54.9 Kgs
waist 28
belly 33

SWF - a puzzle. When I finished my stretch video, I chugged about 12 - 16 oz of water and had to "go" without having done the SWF yet. It was amazingly productive, so I thought, well, may as well do the salt water and do the flush correctly. So I had my salt water and nothing else came out. Sheesh.

Drank more water afterwards to keep the salt water going thru the system. But I only had to pee by that point. Whatever.

Lemonade tally: 6 by 6 pm. Might have another.
Huge gardening day, dismantling front yard. Lots of hauling small palm trees out to the compost. Not even finished by 5 pm, but my energy lasted pretty well through all of it. Kept the water going and was pretty energetic through it all.

Comparing this cleanse to some of my other cleanses, I think I let myself get away with ending when I still technicially was craving stuff. I really did a good job on my first, third and fifth cleanses, in terms of really detoxing effectively. I must really make sure I'm not craving weird foods. I do, on this one, sometimes think lovingly about popcorn. That would be a crave. But I'm also super interested in eating a big plate of bok choy for breakfast once I'm done. That's more of a positive goal for changing my eating habits. Anyway, going to do my best to make it all the way to an 18th day here.


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DAY 12

stiff and sore after yesterday's mondo gardening sesh.

54.5 kilos

34.25 - 27.75 - 38
thigh21.25 belly 34
I must be putting that measuring tape all over the place as I progress, day by day. Measurements drift around a bit. Want to lose just a bit more off the thighs, which is where I expect that last kilo to be from.

Super satisfied customer, everything going according to plan, although last night was the first night in a long time which did not bring a great 7 hours' sleep. I got 6 if I was lucky. Tossed and turned from 12:20 seemingly for ages, like at least 2 very alert hours. Finally drifted off, but have no idea when. Up at 6:30, which is an hour late for me. I do love the sleep I get in Bali, as, out here in the boondocks, it is sooooo dark at night. I just wham out.

Today a good day. Soreness easing when I did morning stretches, kept moving as much as possible, although I did sit for an hour in front of the TV to watch an episode of The Amazing Race filmed in Bali.

swf: effective
Lemonade tally: 7 by 5 pm, had a peppermint tea in the afternoon
Feeling pretty good, if not on the energy high as yesterday. Damned sleep issue. Hey, can't complain too much. I've got my eyes on the prize. Goal is not too far away.


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